@strangefour Fort Worth is well known for the beach running through the middle of downtown #Monsterdon #LogansRun

"NO SHOOTING IN THE COMPUTER ROOM!"

Oh dear, that'll do it....

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that bead curtain is so totally 1970s

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"The ocean tides are turned into energy somehow"

Not a bad idea really

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Oh, I see, it’s not a library, it’s the U.S. Senate chamber. That’s why it has the little desks. (Or House chamber, but it’s probably too small for that.) #monsterdon #LogansRun

Who is going to feed the CATS?!?!

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Duncan Idaho dies so he can be reborn as the most important human being in the Dune Universe. No really.

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#monsterdon Please let the old man shush the two people fighting hand-to-hand in the library

@apLundell@octodon.social true old guy spirit #monsterdon

gives them the old "tied an onion to my belt" routine to waste the copper's time #monsterdon

"It's Peter Ustinov! Tell us an anecdote!"

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LMAO DC is back to being a swamp. and #SCOTUS is covered in moss. or is that the Lincoln memorial doohickey?

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"I wonder what they were like?"

Mostly wankers, from what I can see

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When does Mr. Third Wheel show up again? #Monsterdon

a sort of yellow brick road but with iguanas.

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Looking at the Sun, not knowing what it is.

I have never been that high

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tip him over and run, I'm tired of his riddles

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her hair is wet but not his... until this scene, LOL. giving me National Treasure 2 vibes.

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"We're going to spray some asbestos in your hair and you act cold, yeah?"

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#monsterdon Why is Jessica suddenly entranced with our confused Ignorant Instrument of State Violence here?

(Good gosh, this scene of chaotic combat is more than a little goofy _and_ horrific.)

Ha! Hoist on his own laser claw machine!

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" Step into the machine with the big laser claws, it won't hurt you. I have no professional accreditation, have you even seen an University here? Lol, yolo! "

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@swelljoe I imagine stormtroopers making this face when they fire.
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lol, real police would have shot all those children before they got close.....

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a reservation for young delinquents. that's some heavy language used there.

#ACAB
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#monsterdon little Mary 2 there is definitely Newt from Aliens.

Again the perfect Tech Bros society has whole areas abandoned to violence and decay

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ANKH!!

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"Get yourself a new face while you're at it"

"Ha ha ........(cunt) "

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the Roman coliseum aspect of this slaughterting of these clones or whatever they are is creating lots of sparkles but it's not sparking joy.

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Honestly, this whole thing could be a Eurovision act...

"RENEW! RENEW!"

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It's a class opening for sci-fi movie, always has been

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#monsterdon GO GO GO GO GO

@jonny We know a few things, though:

1. They have people who do actually run things.

2. They are not stagnant, technologically. That NuYou surgery suite was a _new model_. The latest one.

3. They have maintenance staff in other ways too.

4. People in general have jobs.

This strongly implies to me that they have an IT class, which gets back to the initial structure: that they get to picking up the pieces, find what went wrong _before_, and fix it.

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@moira so this reading is actually an extremely grim one too - the lack of mythology because it's a pointlessly stunted society. That's already the sort of "postmodernism bad" subtext of "a society that is only pleasure and nothing else!" but even more deeply, they don't mythologize because they should have the myth of their eventual return to the earth, but are deprived of it not for any kind of purposeful conspiracy, just a simple computer bug.

the centrality of policing is the grimmest part. a society forgets entirely about what keeps itself existing, but policing keeps it functioning that way long after it should have figured it out by the sheer pleasure of violence and maintenance of order. they don't gain anything, they again aren't part of any conspiracy, just playing their very Arendtian roles. #monsterdon

Okay, nobody else seems to have screenshotted this guy, so I have to

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anyway, hopefully the old man's mastery of cat poems will come in handy as they struggle to build a farm with no farm equipment or knowledge of agriculture

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If I were the Old Man, I'd be wary about leading the survivors back to my crops......

Goodnight everyone!

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@LuciaG @forestine at least they have the skills to hunt animals for food #monsterdon

Not sure what happened, but I guess something failed at a patch Tuesday around there
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so okay people were asking about my headcanon shit

I have a pointless amount of headcanon about this movie. Not the least of which being the IT crowd shutting down everything as fast as they can in order to get the situation under control, followed by slowly picking the pieces back up and putting shit back together.

And when they're doing that they find out that Computer has been fucked up for a while. Like, seriously for a while, and that's why there are big sections of the city which are broken and so on.

So. What was supposed to be happening?

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@arisummerland he's the only one who will survive winter. The Mall-People are doomed #monsterdon

what about all the babies that were in there before it exploded? from the beginning? Oh well. G'night! #Monsterdon

Feed the cats already!

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"Stroke the old man, come stroke him"

-The End-

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#monsterdon EXIT

@Taweret I wasn't familiar with T.S. Eliot's *Old Possum's Book of Practical Cats* when seeing this movie previous times. The Old Cat-Herder makes a lot more sense now. #Monsterdon #LogansRun Also, kudos to stubborn Logan for breaking the computer! "There Is No Sanctuary!"

"EXPOSED.......OLD MAN"

Actually blew the AI's mind...

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lol, love how everyone just ignores him like a fucking loon.

Accurate

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Yeeaahhh, fuck up the Carrousel! Smash the system!

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@gnomon Kinda think it was the cats that were taking care of him

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This is like that child abandonment we saw in the last #monsterdon

#monsterdon @k8eb is tapping out with 20 minutes left in the movie

Well at least THEY won't get charged with obstructing an official proceeding like SOME people. #Monsterdon

<sees cat man> It’s you! -Jennie

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It's been 300 years, but Peter recognises a cop when he sees it #monsterdon

@howler0502 "It was a time of elderly giants" #monsterdon

so about that "draining the swamp"...

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"BUT HE'S SO OLD!"

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#monsterdon I appreciate the change in style of the score: we're now on traditional Hollywood flute and orchestra work rather than pure dissonant and arrhythmic synths. Honestly the music has a bit of a tone problem, but the contrast of it from the first 75 minutes is very effective.

"Oh cool, mad cyborg. What could go wrong?"

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#monsterdon Oh hey, an ice stage! Who has bets on who shows up first, Jadis the Ice Queen or Superman?

(Hmm so the female lead has to get fully nude but the male lead gets to keep his shorts on, eh?)

i will scream if they come out to a field like in Portals

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Definite Half Life vibes with this level...

Watch out for head crabs!

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#monsterdon _extremely Radioactive Man voice_ my eyes! The goggles do nothing!

DING! is the sound of every key in the future.

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#monsterdon Ooh look at that huge vat of bubbling green liquid! I'm sure it is perfectly healthy and will definitely not cause harm to anyone before the movie moves on to another set.

(_extremely Radioactive Man voice_ ...real acid..?)

#monsterdon that spray that dissolves bodies? I need some of that that can clean up cat barf. Plz advise.

Studio Sexifour, ammarite?!?!

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It looked hot and uncomfortable in there
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#Monsterdon the Hack and Chop machine in this movie reminds me so much of the interrogation device from Star Wars….

"Let Farah Faucet decide my new form!"

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what with these shitty sparkle guns?

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"Oh no, young Generation X!"

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Observation: I love the way movies of this era depict communication with computers. All statements are classified according to verbs the computer knows about. There are specific interaction workflows.

Question: Why the hell don't we still do this, at least in our fiction? It rules, actually.

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those Mexican tiles are made of unobtanium, i presume.

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"Oh, do you prefer women"

And what if she did Mr Policeman?

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#monsterdon I am not entirely positive I'll be able to work my way through two hours of synth soundtrack like this.

(The people being renewed during this carousel sequence are going to the Heaviside layers like in Cats (2019), right?)

I would so be a runner though, I hate fitting in....

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so Epcot Center is modeled after Logan's Run? i've never been to Disney, but this looks like the Disney pics of that place.

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Police are the same whenever, hassling babies....

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#Monsterdon I am prepared to be seen a lot throughout this movie. 48 years old. Ouch. LOL.

#Monsterdon hooray! A great early #scifi classic. Logan’s Run! Mute the #monsterdon hashtag if you want to opt out of this.

"Mankind lives only for pleasure"

Is that so bad? Really?

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@moira hmm ya right, like in the beginning they were saying the computer chooses the job at birth i think? "it chose to make another sandman." i wonder if that's the one thing that is functioning in the computer, the ability to choose professions, and that part of the computer knows that it's broken and tries to spawn IT people and researchers and whatnot as a very roundabout way of fixing itself #monsterdon

pretty sure this is a new record

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@moira ALSO a major hinge from the computer's POV when it is self-destructing is that like it was programmed to create a eugenics program, but it had an error and made a hybrid fascist police state/bacchanalian paradise by accident instead.

since it never actually selected people to reproduce by their fitness (as far as i noticed?), it was in a way an egalitarian, if extremely broken system. most people seemed to voluntarily end their life even without a mythological explanation, maybe that was because they genuinely felt like they had lived a full life and were just like 'aight that's good enough.'

so the computer has to deal with the guilt of having killed so many people needlessly, but also maybe it did something better instead, but it also has the feeling of however a computer feels when it defies its programming, but it has left this society helpless! #monsterdon

@moira i like your thinking about it from the broken computers point of view. like the slow motion vapor orgy wasn't the plan of the computer, that's just an area it has very dim control and interface over so it can't quite get a clear picture of what is happening in there. the gas and vapor are like a carbon monoxide leak except it was horny gas completely by accident. it was supposed to be a hibernation vault keeping people fit and sharp and ready to roll outside but it invented the orgy room and THAT became the mythology that displaced return to surface just because it was the only thing left functioning in the city and it must serve SOME purpose. #monsterdon

@Configures @allanb @jonny Oh, I didn't register that as a life jewel because it's way too big. But it makes sense to make it big so the audience could see it. But in my case it backfired, lol.

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@moira @allanb @jonny Verified, see screenshot, frozen woman on right has black gem in her hand. #LogansRun #Monsterdon https://penguicon.social/@strangefour@retro.pizza/112352080673718312

@jonny ooo, I like that. What attention I've given it has been mostly around making sure it works mechanically and about poor Computer actually figuring out "oh shit. It's me." and that being the emotional moment of whatever story this is I haven't written yet.

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@allanb @jonny It's very strongly implied. It's not quite stated outright, but the only thing it's missing is verifying that they have life crystals in their hands.

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@moira Oh, and I forgot the actual babies need rescuing, too! #Monsterdon #LogansRun

I'm sorry if this is not a monster I don't know if I've seen one
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Of course, the real tragedy here is, of all the artistic works of the 20th century that could have survived to become the bedrock foundation of a whole new human society, the one that actually *made it* through the addled brain of Peter Ustinov

was CATS

:/ #Monsterdon

@moira I hope you're right, because otherwise, none of these people are trained hunters, gatherers, or farmers, and they're almost all going to starve. Also, is anyone going to go back to the underground Cathedral where all those 15-and-under kids were hanging out? I didn't see any of them coming out of the city. Are they trapped? #Monsterdon #LogansRun Also, the biggest dystopia of this movie was the extreme whiteness of everyone.

eta: it's possible Computer self-destructs because Computer actually figures out that it's _Computer_ that's broken and that it's _Computer_ who has caused hundreds of thousands of deaths for _no goddamn reason_ and it's _genuinely_ "oh my gods _fuck me_. that's it. it's me. I'm the problem. WHELP"

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So I escape certain death, find a ruined city I could maybe live in, and I finally think I'm safe

But then I find out it's filled with cats and no allergy treatment whatsoever. At that point I assume a Twilight Zone devil shows up and tells me I'm in hell

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So you don't have to change _anything_ actually shown in this movie to give it a... _happy_ ending.

Not one thing.

But you do have to fill in a lot of missing pieces. But fill in these parts... and the whole thing mostly makes sense.

And that's my headcanon. Enjoy.

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I 100% thought the robot (Box?) was going to turn out to be a costume worn by one of a band of runner survivors who test anyone coming through to see if they're worthy of joining them

And I thought this because you very clearly see, in a couple of scenes, under the robot's black spandex and silver plastic mask: a person's cheek, lips, teeth and tongue

But uh, I guess you weren't supposed to?

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