Gargoyles
Ben Zanin
Ben Zanin
gnomon

...I have questions about the aerodynamics in this scene...

OH MY GOD IS THAT THE END!?!? The gargoyle and gargoylette just fucked off into the sΜΆeΜΆaΜΆ sky and we roll credits?!

Wow. Dang. That sure was a thing that just happened.

Thank you, @Taweret@octodon.social! Thank you for the bingo card, @cheribaker!

Floaty Birb
Floaty Birb
floatybirb

Anyway, that finishes the Gargoyle movie. It was really kind of a bummer, what with all the genocide. I award it 3 giant fuzzy eggs out of 5, mostly because it was strange.

characters in decreasing order of likeability:
makeshift bikini girl
motel milf
designated egg petters
them 50 bloodhounds
the yazirian
doctor sniffles
wizened hat guy
captain demonology
wrongly accused motorcycle dudes
all other characters

Ross of Ottawa
Ross of Ottawa
ottaross

And as per most Monsterdon classics, at the most unexpected moment, the movie is over.

I think it's just when the budget runs out suddenly.

Floaty Birb
Floaty Birb
floatybirb

its also not clear to me how gargoyle lore is transmitted if all the gargoyles only hatched a few weeks ago. How do they know that humans killed them in the past? Do they have a gargoyle collective memory or did a few gargoyles live longer to explain world history to them?

jonny (nonvenomous)
jonny (nonvenomous)
jonny@neuromatch.social

so many good decisions in this scene:

[desert, day. a truck is driving by in a circle by itself, covered in blood]

all cast: *trundle after the truck, grabbing onto it and jumping all over it*
Sheriff: *sit right in the middle of pool of blood, gets it all over himself. distractedly wiping it off fingers and uniform through scene*

Sheriff: "wonder where they went? Jesse, we better spread out"
Jesse: "ok i'll take the dark canyon road"

#monsterdon

Ross of Ottawa
Ross of Ottawa
ottaross

"Okay that's lunch everyone, and we'll finish shooting this afternoon… on second thought, scratch that, we'll just stop there and ship it."

Floaty Birb
Floaty Birb
floatybirb

anyway, this film seems to be taking a middle route between "humans are the real monsters!" and "no, the monsters are the real monsters!" in that the gargoyles are aggressive and dangerous but also seem to have good reason to fear and hate humans (who keep killing them over time, it seems).

It's more like a long running ethnic conflict between the humans and the winged reptile people, who can be understood as a displaced tribe.

Ben Zanin
Ben Zanin
gnomon

I am an immediate fan of Cactus Motel Miss Hannigan and I wish for her a starring role

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Newpa_Hasai

Wild speculation to make the plot work: Gargoyles are sort of descendants of the devil and/or various fallen angels. But they work sort of like Nephelim, so have lots of humans in their family tree. The head gargoyle is vague on how they're kinda human (and so don't *have* to be evil), but in a TV series this could be developed and coexistence would be possible.

Without that, they're just a plague of monsters that we have to deal with every few centuries.

Floaty Birb
Floaty Birb
floatybirb

notable aspects of that gargoyles movie:

1) the giant skull gimmick didn't come into play much, other than the gargoyles wanted it back because it was a theft of their ancestors' bones. I thought it was going to come back to life or something. Nope.
2) it was extremely horny.
3) the motorcyclists deciding to nope out was actually kind of a neat twist; it looked like they were setting up to do a macho rescue.
4) why did the eggs have fur and need smaller gargoyles to pet them

Ross of Ottawa
Ross of Ottawa
ottaross

Thanks to @Taweret@octodon.social for coordinating this weeks flick.

Hope the hurricanes are holding back, and gargoyles are not involved in any way.

Floaty Birb
Floaty Birb
floatybirb

in summary always remember to pet your eggs and read to your gargoyles.

thanks to @Taweret@octodon.social for another

Bluedepth

a truly lost bit of cinema genius was lost here. They could have done a slow pan across a bookshelf, feature a copy of Moby Dick, and then have one of the smarter Gargoyles go on about β€œAhab, hah, all humans are bastards, amirite?” And leave it there. As a literary commentary. ;)

th0tleader

I've seen a lot of crappy endings and this is....pretty fuckin bad

Floaty Birb
Floaty Birb
floatybirb

I am wondering how these gargoyle eggs get laid. Is there a giant gargoyle queen that lays giant eggs? Or do the eggs start small and then get bigger over time?

Ben Zanin
Ben Zanin
gnomon

OK we can cut this scene of an elder gargoyle poking and prodding at an unconscious girl anytime now.

A-a-a-anytime at all.

That's well more than enough already.

Ben Zanin
Ben Zanin
gnomon

"I've seen 'em all - drunks, dopers - but I got a feeling I got a new one this time." *swigs highball of scotch, stalks away*

*cut back to unlicensed autopsy of a cryptid being conducted in the motel room*

Floaty Birb
Floaty Birb
floatybirb

being unaware of how hazardous motor vehicles can be, one of the gargoyle things walks out in front of a truck and dies; the driver just speeds away because he's a jerk and doesn't want to be billed by the gargoyle's insurance company.

Ben Zanin
Ben Zanin
gnomon

That looming thunderstorm in the background is very nifty, but the image of a bunch of arrested kids being shoved face-down in front of police holding long guns is more ominous than the weather, frankly.

Ross of Ottawa
Ross of Ottawa
ottaross

Oh trivia time!

This character Diana is played by Jennifer Salt. She was a roommate with Margot Kidder around this time apparently.

Floaty Birb
Floaty Birb
floatybirb

the movie starts with some lame christian theology and/or cliff notes form paradise lost, except we edited the theology to include our gargoyle OCs, who are made in the image of Satan and are like people or maybe angry dogs. This is an improvement as far as I am concerned.

Also every few hundred years the gargoyles do some mischief or something and humans retaliate by whacking them with a broom stick.

Ben Zanin
Ben Zanin
gnomon

If the gargoyles have placed the survival of their species and thus the viability of their eggs at the absolute tip-top of their priority list, why did they just give their main prisoner a reason to believe that the genocide of his species was the near-term plan and then chuck him down into a pit, unsupervised, right near the egg chamber..?

I know everyone is busy here but that just sounds like poor planning. Maybe gargoyles are as incompetent at survival as giant pandas.

Ben Zanin
Ben Zanin
gnomon

If they just killed Miss Hannigan off screen, we riot

EDIT: OK that's it, get your torches and pitchforks, I'll warm up the tar and fluff up the feathers

Ben Zanin
Ben Zanin
gnomon

OK look, everyone who is like "why are the gargoyles walking when they could fly": yes we know the eagles could have flown the hobbits straight to mordor too

Floaty Birb
Floaty Birb
floatybirb

I'm miffed these guys are too lazy to name an actual tribe and just refer to whoever the wizened hat guy got his skeleton from as "the indians". I want them to be more specific.

Like they could just make up a tribe like Tin Tin made up European countries... "I got these skeletons from the... um... not the Navajo... the um... Blavajoe."

Floaty Birb
Floaty Birb
floatybirb

the demonologist dude mentioned the mayan and aztec ruins, because those are the most commonly remembered groups of mesoamericans. nobody remembers the mixtec ruins, or the zapotec ruins or the purepecha ruins or the toltec ruins (except battlestar galactica I guess). some people remember the olmec ruins, mostly the simpsons and psuedoscientists.

anyway, mexico is a cool place and has lots of ruins, or so I am told.

Bluedepth

funny little coincidence today. TIL that incubus and succubus are all about tops and bottoms. Had a spot of that show up in the movie.

Bluedepth

There was room for a hot love trapezoid between the gargoyles and the humans. Alas, nobody wants to really have teratophilia. Rawr.

Ben Zanin
Ben Zanin
gnomon

"You brought them here to kill us!"

Dude you literally threatened the extinction of the entire human species _and then let the doofus walk out_

Ben Zanin
Ben Zanin
gnomon

Look: I don't like low-framerate combat sequences when it's Jason Bourne and I don't like low-framerate combat sequences when it's gargoyles either. Just cut it out.

nhgeek
nhgeek
nhgeek

Welcome to the Cave of Poor Life Choices. Population: rapidly dwindling

Bluedepth

No I saw nothing. I was busy drinking. I’m so thirsty! Have anything light? Like everclear or maybe the good stuff, rubbing alcohol, maybe?

Floaty Birb
Floaty Birb
floatybirb

launching my thread for gargoyles, which I will watch until I get distracted or bored. yay gargoyles.

Floaty Birb
Floaty Birb
floatybirb

lead motorcycle dude pours gasoline on all the gargoyle eggs and then lights them on fire, as gargoyles try to stop him for extremely good reasons.

in a weird fucking scene, Captain Demonology explains that "yes, we are doing a genocide because we have to kill you before you can kill us. but actually it won't be a total genocide because I will let you fly away with your girlfriend so you can lay more eggs."

and captain sniffles is like "GRAAAR BWAHAHAHAHA GRAAAR."

Floaty Birb
Floaty Birb
floatybirb

If I am following this action right, the Yazirian feels bad for Captain Demonology or something and so helps him escape. He returns with some cops and gasoline to do a genocide.

Ouch. This movie decided humans were the real monsters after all.

Floaty Birb
Floaty Birb
floatybirb

we learn that the Yazirian is a girl because she has a girl voice when she tells Doctor Sniffles that a human search party is here to fuck with them. Doctor Sniffles orders the gargoyle army to scramble from its cave and intercept the guy with some dogs, then cackles maniacally.

Floaty Birb
Floaty Birb
floatybirb

just when were thinking the gargoyles were pretty chill and cool and should just be left alone, the search party finds the motel milf, dead and hanging from a pole. The guy with her is missing and was probably eaten.

Anyway, the motorcycle dudes decide this scenario is made of NOPE and then zoom away into the distance.

Bluedepth

some of these gargoyles kinda look a bit like Sleestaks. I wonder if they are enlightened and bisexual as regular sleestaks are?

Bluedepth

β€œI’m drunk and horny to scissor sweet cheeks. I’ll have my special highball glass of espionage handy!”

Bluedepth

Based on Horror Express, let’s saw the skulls open! Dig into the gooey goodness.

Floaty Birb
Floaty Birb
floatybirb

ooo we're playing the game where we drive by the desert and the billboards get more and more surreal until they are just each SCPs in their own right.

Ross of Ottawa
Ross of Ottawa
ottaross

Actor Jennifer Salt was also the daughter of Hollywood writer Waldo Salt with MGM.

He’s notable on a couple of fronts. He was blacklisted in the β€œred scare” McCarthyism era. Apparently a rare case of someone who bounced back from that situation and went on to be a writer on iconic works like "Serpico" and "Midnight Cowboy" and bagged a couple of Oscars.

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allanb

Again with the young 70s female photographers / internal protagonists

Ben Zanin
Ben Zanin
gnomon

"We'll start next Monday, with Mayan and Aztec myths" oooh, "Q: the Winged Serpent" crossover opportunity

David Zaslavsky
David Zaslavsky
diazona@techhub.social

In all seriousness I would be 100% in for a buddy detective series where one of them is the head gargoyle

It's 2013 and his quest to destroy humanity has fizzled out so he moves to New York and becomes a private investigator

#Monsterdon