Godzilla
Void Chicken
Void Chicken
Taweret@timeloop.cafe

It's like the movie is embarrassed to be a monster movie. it keeps going "haha isn't this silly, a giant lizard, we don't take this seriously" but also "no wait care about these characters, this is dramatic." pick a lane!

#monsterdon

Cactuar Joe
Cactuar Joe
CactuarJoe@retro.pizza

The thing about Godzilla (1998) is that it was bad in a way #Monsterdon movies usually aren't.

Usually when a Monsterdon movie is bad, it's because they didn't have the budget to pull it off, or their concept was just weird, or their technical or artistic skills just weren't up to it.

Godzilla (1998) had all those things in spades and more, but it still sucked. Because it was just *bland as shit.*

When a Monsterdon movie is bad, it's usually bad in an INTERESTING way. The tricks to doing something on a low budget are neat, or the weirdness of the concept is compelling, things like that.

Godzilla (1998)'s only passion was in tallying up how much branded ice cream they could sell if they added in ANOTHER scene that reminded people of Jurassic Park.

How compelling :/

Hollie
Hollie
hollie@social.coop

Things we learned:

1. Jean Reno can really complain about coffee

2. Matthew Broderick saw that scene where his character is buying a bunch of Godzilla pregnancy tests and still thought this film was a good idea

3. Madison Square Garden holds many secrets (and gumballs)

4. Hank Azaria can make any role good, it is The Power of Hank

Thanks everyone! And thanks to @Taweret for hosting!

:)

#Godzilla1998
#Monsterdon

Louisa
Louisa
Louisa@mastodon.xyz

#monsterdon imagine if Ghostbusters had the 4 guys come down from the roof covered in marshmallow fluff, greet the cheering crowd,

and then another Stay Puft appeared across town, and they went over there and killed that one, and afterwards Venkman had a conversation with Dana about the future of their relationship, and then Gozer escaped into the sewers or whatever

Ben Zanin
Ben Zanin
gnomon

*EASTERN SEABOARD - UNITED STATES*

omg Godzilla is about to take down `us-east-1`

Give the people what they want, Godzilla

SnoopJ
SnoopJ
SnoopJ@hachyderm.io

@CactuarJoe @kshernandez "no no you see this Godzilla came about because of foreign militarism, which is bad, and the day was saved by american militarism, which is good (and also more potent)" - the Godzilla understanders who created GODZILLA (1998)

#Monsterdon

Trixter of the Moon Council
Trixter of the Moon Council
trixter@retro.pizza

I'm gonna make a bold statement: This wasn't *that much* worse than a lot of the Millennium-era kaiju movies.

Though apparently the song I was thinking of was the *second* end-credits song.

But at least it's finally over! After a solid hour of refusing to just end already! Goodnight #monsterdon, see y'all next week, and thank @Taweret for organizing this for us!

rj
rj
arrjay@tacobelllabs.net

We did it, #monsterdon - we conquered that which would have been "Too Long, Too Much Boring Shit" for MST3K

this is. THE POWER!

now let's never talk about Godzilla 1998 again.

Brad
Brad
bk1e

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Radioactive lizards off the coast of French Polynesia. I watched tuna fish glitter in the dark near Central Park. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.

surdfish
surdfish
surdfish@beige.party

The original Gojira films worked because they torque certain cultural/historical anxieties in post-war Japan. This one works similarly on the USAmerican imagination by wrecking a food court and showing cartoon characters in humanface.

#Monsterdon

SnoopJ
SnoopJ
SnoopJ@hachyderm.io

and Jean Reno doing an Elvis impression, while stupid in THIS movie, is so cute that I can't really not enjoy it

#Monsterdon

Ben Zanin
Ben Zanin
gnomon

I'm sorry. A giant lizard, I can believe. This many helicopters in formation without _any_ mechanical faults? Get the fuck outta here. Just have the soldiers start casting spells at this point

Cactuar Joe
Cactuar Joe
CactuarJoe@retro.pizza

@kshernandez YEAH, that was the other thing, too! Complete disrespect for what Godzilla's actually *about*!

Like, we all enjoy a giant monster destroying a city but there's another layer, where Godzilla is a metaphor for human technological hubris, and these chucklefucks had it die TO MILITARY TECHNOLOGY #Monsterdon

Floaty Birb
Floaty Birb
floatybirb

Controversially, I award Fake Godzilla 4 out of 5 angry helicopters, because it amused me with the chases everywhere. It really has more of the vibes of an action movie than a kaiju movie, despite having a giant monster.

The best character was all the fake godzillas. The other characters were fine.

A notable downside to this movie is that it is about 11 hours long.

Ben Zanin
Ben Zanin
gnomon

And that's a wreck! Nobody fucks off into the sea because Godzilla's missile-punctured corpse is out rotting on the wrecked Brooklyn bridge. France's national presence, embodied by Jean Reno, slinks offscreen without reckoning with the wreckage it caused. Nothing made any sense, nobody learned anything, city was wrecked, giant lizard died. What a waste. Makes every other Godzilla movie better by comparison.

Thanks for hosting, @Taweret ! We got through this one together.

SnoopJ
SnoopJ
SnoopJ@hachyderm.io

I'm sad to see the Brooklyn Bridge destroyed, but only in an anachronistic way because of how amazing the bike lane is

also, holy shit does this movie ever misunderstand what a suspension bridge is

#Monsterdon

Ben Zanin
Ben Zanin
gnomon

The "frantically hitting the elevator call button to get away from enemies during a firefight" worked when James Cameron had Hicks do it in Aliens (1986) because that movie had pacing and timing and, by that point, had earned a willing suspension of disbelief from the audience.

Tonight, in our audience, that gag did _not_ work, and there is a different kind of disbelief altogether.

Blake C. Stacey
Blake C. Stacey
bstacey@icosahedron.website

Spelling out that it's an Elvis Presley impression after the world's most obvious Elvis impression flattens the joke like a kaiju foot animated by Terry Gilliam stomped on it.

The bit would work if Reno had two lines and then says "thank you very much" after the guard waves them through, revealing how he learned an American accent. "Thank you very much" IS THE PUNCHLINE, you incompetent hacks

#Monsterdon

Ben Zanin
Ben Zanin
gnomon

Oh hey, a slow pan through the burning building that was previously wall-to-wall stuffed with godzilla eggs before it was SAM'd to smithereens, I'm sure this will just cap off the victory montage all our characters were enjoying.

*one undamaged goddzilla egg hatches and a small godzilla screams directly into the camera*

END

JUST END

NOBODY WANTS A SEQUEL TO THIS

Hollie
Hollie
hollie@social.coop

Okay I realize this is bad news for New Yorkers but HOW COOL, AN ENTIRELY NEW SPECIES

She says, from three thousand miles away

It's fine, I'm sure they can't cross mountain ranges, Oregon is safe

#Godzilla1998 #Monsterdon

SnoopJ
SnoopJ
SnoopJ@hachyderm.io

"no I didn't give them the tape! it's my tent right nowβ€”"

[flatly]

"oh my god. oh my god she took the tape"

see, an actor could have delivered that line with some kind of emotion

#Monsterdon

Hollie
Hollie
hollie@social.coop

So he came to New York to....have a family? He's spent all this time dreaming of walking claw-in-claw through Central Park with the little one, ice skating at Rockefeller Center...

#Godzilla1998 #Monsterdon

Hollie
Hollie
hollie@social.coop

I LOVE the little sound that digital text makes when they put it onscreen like that in scifi movies. Love it.

I wonder if I could find a clip of that and make it my text notification tone

#Godzilla1998 #Monsterdon

Floaty Birb
Floaty Birb
floatybirb

Anyway, this concludes my thread for Godzilla (1998) in which an innocent radioactive dinosaur is trying to start a family but gets cruelly attacked by lots of guns and also we learn about sexual harassment in journalism and what a "Madison Square Garden" is.

Thanks to @Taweret for hosting and to everyone else who joined in this Collective Tooting Experience!

Cactuar Joe
Cactuar Joe
CactuarJoe@retro.pizza

Okay, everybody hit the showers, you've earned it tonight. One last button to press on your way out folks,

Was GODZILLA (1998) the WORST #MONSTERDON movie of the year?

SnoopJ
SnoopJ
SnoopJ@hachyderm.io

yea, sure, this turd will get a sequel.

congratulations to those of you who just saw GODZILLA (1998) for the first time and made it through. this movie does not have a universally bad reputation for no reason, it worked hard to earn every word of criticism

on the bright side: it is impossible for us to watch a worse Godzilla film, now.

#Monsterdon